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titleQ3 meeting - Helsinki

Q3 - FTTdp, Helsinki

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WED AM-1, September 13, 2017, Work Area Minutes:

ItemDescriptionAction/Status/Comments/Who
1

Agenda bashing

2

Minutes of Previous Meetings


3

Closing





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TUES AM-1, September 12, 2017, WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt:

ItemDescriptionAction/Status/Comments/Who
1

IPR declarations

Agenda bashing

2

2017.681.00, Error in bbf-vdsl-pointers.yang

Not agreed. While the naming is unfortunate, the nodes are OK from a technical perspective.

3

WT-355c2


Start a short ballot process to proceed towards publication.



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WED AM-1, September 13, 2017, WT-355a1 WT-374 G.hn

ItemDescriptionAction/Status/Comments/Who
1

IPR declarations

Agenda bashing

Led by: Ken Kerpez,Joey Boyd

Attendees:

2

2017.593.00, Proposal to update WT-374


3

Agree next steps

Finalize outgoing liaisons

Teleconference schedule

Closing plenary slides





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titleInterim meetings


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August 1, 2017; WT-355

ItemDescriptionAction/Status/Comments/Who
1

IPR declarations

Agenda bashing

2

bbf2017.592.00 

Proposed additions to WT-355a1 for RPF 

 Agreed as "proposed text." Joey to implement changes within a few weeks.

3

bbf2017.564.01 

WT-355 cor2 some more errors to fix 

Went through each comment, added a row-by-row disposition of each comment in a new last column of bbf2017.564.02.docx

Frank to draft a liaison to ITU-T SG15/Q4 for the comment on page 8.

4Discuss timing of publication of WT-355 Amendment 1 and WT-355 Corrigendum 2

Agreed to send Cor 2 to straw ballot ASAP.

Joey to implement changes within a few weeks.

Amd 1 is still in development, should include G.997.2 Amd 4, alarms and notifications, etc.



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July 19, 2017; WT-374

ItemDescriptionAction/Status/Comments/Who
1

IPR declarations

Agenda bashing

2

bbf2017.593.00 

Proposal to update WT-374 

Describes various improvements to the WT-374 YANG. The actual changes are in a pull request on Bitbucket. It was agreed that the pull request will be posted, with a one-week review announced via email.

Not all parameters listed in this contribution are encoded as YANG parameters yet, this needs to be done before going to straw ballot, hopefully in September.

3Informal discussion of IETF NMDAWilliam briefly presented new proposals in the IETF for new NETCONF datastores, and the potential combination of state and config trees.





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title2017 Q2 Meeting - Taipei

2017 Q2 Face to Face Meeting - Taipei

ItemTimeslot / Session /LocationAction/Status/Comments/Who
1

Monday 15th May 2017

13:30-15:30

North Gate (Level B1)

Non PS Aligned


Agenda bashing


IPR declarations


Meeting Minutes:



Incoming Liaisons:


NPIFS:

Led by: Christopher Croot, Sven Ooghe


Attendees: Joey Boyd, Ludwig Pauwels, Nick Hancock,Chin-Ping Chuang (CHT), Ya-Ping Huang (CHT), Jose Salgado (Altice Labs), Robert Peschi


IPR declarations : no declarations


Meeting minutes: the minutes have been approved as uploaded on ARO and as written on the BBF FTTdp wiki page.


Incoming liaisons: None


NPIFs: there were no new NPIFs
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Tuesday 16th May 2017

08:00-10:00

East Gate (Level B1)


FTTdp Management PS



WT-355 - YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt:

2017.446, 2017.485


Led by: Joey Boyd, Ken Kerpez


Attendees:


WT-355 YANG Modules for FTTdp Management:

2017.446 - Changes for inclusion in WT-355c2. The following items were discussed:

  • Line 380 inbbf-fast-pointers.yang, agreed to update description
  • Line 434 in bbf-vdsl-impulse-noise-protection-delay-profile-body.yang, agreed to deprecate upstream mdosplit and explain in the description that upstream + downstream = 100% so that's why upstream was deprecated.

  • Line 476 in bbf-vdsl-impulse-noise-protection-delay-profile-body.yang, agreed to deprecate upstream and fix description

  • Line 504 in bbf-vdsl-impulse-noise-protection-delay-profile-body.yang, agreed to deprecate upstream and fix description

  • Line 119 in bbf-vdsl-line-spectrum-profile-body.yang, no change agreed

  • Line 137 in bbf-vdsl-line-spectrum-profile-body.yang, agreed to add default "all" to power-management-mode

  • Line 202 in bbf-vdsl-line-spectrum-profile-body.yang, agreed to add must statement: l2-maximum-aggregate-power-reduction-per <= l2-maximum-aggregate-power-reduction-total

  • Line 253 in bbf-vdsl-mode-specific-psd-profile-body.yang, not agreed, no change made to upstream_psd_mask_selection

    • Agreed to add text to OD-360 noting that backward compatibility is more important than changing style issues.
  • Line 152 in bbf-vdsl-noise-margin-profile-body.yang, agreed to expand the must statement for maximum-noise-margin by adding: or (max == "unbounded")

  • Line 370 in bbf-vdsl-pointers.yang, leaf line-config-vector, no change agreed

  • Line 380 in bbf-vdsl-pointers.yang, threshold-template, agreed to add to description field: "If no template is configured, then TCA reporting is disabled."

  • Line 103 in bbf-vdsl-virtual-noise-profile-body.yang, grouping vn-descriptor, agreed to make max-elements be 16 for upstream and 32 for downstream

  • Line 167 in bbf-vdsl-virtual-noise-profile-body.yang, virtual-noise-profile (downstream), agreed to add a must statement so that there cannot be a single element

  • Line 219 in bbf-vdsl-virtual-noise-profile-body.yang, virtual-noise-profile (upstream), agreed to add a must statement so that there cannot be a single element

  • Line 270 in bbf-vdsl-xtu-band-status-body.yang, upbo-electrical-length-pbn, agreed to add to description "For ADSL systems, a single parameter is defined for band = 0, as a single band is usable."

  • Line 302 in bbf-vdsl-xtu-line-status-body.yang, profile, agreed to remove config false; (other spurious config false; occurrences should also be searched and destroyed)

  • Line 420 in bbf-vdsl-xtu-line-status-body.yang, attndr-actual-method, agreed to change valid range to 0..2

There were some additional rows in the contribution that were inadvertently copied, were redundant, and not addressed.

It was agreed to create a WT-355 Corrigendum 2, post it on Bitbucket, and proceed to a rapid straw ballot


2017.485.01 - Awareness of new FTU Management Counter

  • Notes that a new counter is being defined by the ITU for G.fast: All Normal Operation Interval (NOI) Error Free Throughput (ANDEFTR). This is likely to be consented by the ITU in June, there is no action by the BBF at this time but we should be ready for it.



 

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Tuesday 16th May 2017

10:30-12:30

East Gate (Level B1)

JOINT SESSION  

Fiber to the Distribution Point

Common YANG

Common YANG /  FTTdp Management PS


WT-383a1 Common YANG Modules for Access Networks, cont.


Events and Notifications:

2017.332.00, 2017.425.00, 2017.442.00


Ethernet:

2017.323.01, 2017.373.00


Performance monitoring:

2017.339.00


QoS:

2017.369.00, 2017.444.00




Attendees:



 

Events and Notifications:

2017.332.00, 2017.425.00, 2017.442.00


Ethernet:

2017.323.01, 2017.373.00


Performance monitoring:

2017.339.00


QoS:

2017.369.00, 2017.444.00

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Tuesday 16th May 2017

13:30-15:30

Far Eastern Grand Ballroom (Level 3)

JOINT SESSION  

Fiber to the Distribution Point

Common YANG

Fibre Access Networks

Common YANG

FTTdp Management

PON Management



SPAC readout on NC/Y and FTTdp testing needs: 2017.435.00 (NPIF), 2017.452.00


WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt:

2017.392.00


WT-383a1 Common YANG Modules for Access Networks, cont.

Security:

2017.337.00


Hardware:

2017.370.00, 2017.385.00


Other:

2017.264.00, 2017.336.01, 2017.338.00, 2017.384.00

Attendees:





 








SPAC readout on NC/Y and FTTdp testing needs:

2017.435.00 (NPIF), 2017.452.00


WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt:

2017.392.00


WT-383a1 Common YANG Modules for Access Networks, cont.

Security:

2017.337.00


Hardware:

2017.370.00, 2017.385.00


Other:

2017.264.00, 2017.336.01, 2017.338.00, 2017.384.00


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Tuesday 16th May 2017

16:00-18:00

Premier (Level 3)

JOINT SESSION  

Fiber to the Distribution Point

Physical Layer Transmission


Liaisons:

General

2017.485 - Awareness of new FTU Management Counter


WT-301 Arch and Req for FTTdp:

2017.493 - DPU daisy chaining

2017.496 - Alternative DPU backhaul


i2 FTTdp on Common G.fast and RPF:


FTTdp Management Interop and Testing

OD-379 Interoperability Test Plan for FTTdp PMA/DPU

Management Interface:

2017.452 - Copper Interface Status test proposal


Led by: Les BrownDong Wei

 

Attendees :

Chris Croot, Sven Ooghe, David Thorne, Kevin Foster, Tony Zeng, Richard Goodson, Ken Kerpez, Frank Van der Putten, Aleksandra Kozarev, Fred Chu, Martin Casey, Sven Leimer, Herman Verbueken, Marta Seda, Tom Starr, Erez Ben-Tovim, Madhu Hegde, Mercel Reitmann, Eric Wang, Les Humphrey, Jo Maes, Macin Drzymala, Steve Chen, Marcos Matinez, Tomer Cohen


General

2017.485.01 - Awareness of new FTU Management Counter

  • Presented by Chris Croot (BT)
  • It has been presented at FTTdp session.
  • This contribution is to make attendees of the work area aware that there is a new parameter being proposed for addition to ITU-T Recommendation G.997.2 that could be of benefit to include in some of the work of the BBF
  • For information only


WT-301 Arch and Req for FTTdp:

2017.493.01 - DPU daisy chaining

  • Presented by Dave Thorne (BT)
  • Various topics were suggested as candidates for an Issue 3 of TR-301 (FTTdp) in BBF2017.251. One of these was the idea of daisy chaining DPUs to reduce backhaul costs.This contribution provides further details of that architecture and its implications for the DPU.
  • The author did not ask for agreement at this time


2017.496 - Alternative DPU backhaul

  • Presented by Dave Thorne (BT)
  • This contribution proposes reconsideration of multi-pair bonded VDSL as a possible G.fast DPU backhaul
  • The author did not ask for agreement at this time


i2 FTTdp on Common G.fast and RPF: No contribution


FTTdp Management Interop and Testing

OD-379 Interoperability Test Plan for FTTdp PMA/DPU

Management Interface:

2017.452 - Copper Interface Status test proposal

  • Presented by Ken Kerpez (ASSIA, Orange)
  • This contribution proposes a simple line status test as an initial check to verify a parameter read
  • Agreed to the proposed test procedure without Step 7 

 

Discussion

It was mentioned that while contribution 2017.458 "G.fast RPF - PSE noise testing" is for PHYtx, a relevant contribution may be submitted for WT-301 in the future.


SPAC readout

2017.519 - SPAC readout on G.mgfast discussion

  • Presented by Mauro Tilocca



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Thursday 23rd March 2017 

13:30-16:00

 East Gate (Level B1)

JOINT SESSION  

Fiber to the Distribution Point

Common YANG


OD-360 Best Current Practices for developing YANG models:

2017.183.00


WT-383a1 Common YANG, cont.


Non-PS Assigned:

Agree next steps
Finalize outgoing liaisons
Teleconference schedule
Closing plenary slides

Led by: Christopher Croot, Sven Ooghe


Attendees: 11


OD-360 Best Current Practices for developing YANG models:

2017.183.00


Agree next steps: due to the light load of contributions, we anticipate we only need a single session in the next meeting.

Finalize outgoing liaisons

Teleconference schedule

Closing plenary slides


WT-383a1 Common YANG, cont.





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