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Agenda for 2016 Q4 Face to Face Meeting - Kansas City

 

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title2016 Q4 Meeting - Kansas City, MOQ3 meeting - Helsinki

Q3 - FTTdp, Helsinki

WED AM-1, September 13, 2017, Work Area Opening & Closing Minutes:

ItemDescriptionAction/Status/Comments/Who
1

Agenda bashing

Led by: Christopher Croot

Those present : Christopher Croot, Nick Hancock, Ken Kerpez, Joey Boyd, Marcos Martinez

Agenda Approved - Note that contribution number was incorrect. The correct number was CONTRIB-200064


2

Minutes of Previous Meetings

Approved

3

Closing


The closing plenary slide was created and agreed.

Everyone was thanked for their hard work and the group was closed down.



TUES AM-1, September 12, 2017, WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt:

ItemDescriptionAction/Status/Comments/Who
1

IPR declarations

Agenda bashing

Led by: Ken Kerpez,Joey Boyd


2

2017.681.00, Error in bbf-vdsl-pointers.yang

Not agreed. While the naming is unfortunate, the nodes are OK from a technical perspective.

3

WT-355c2


Start a short ballot process to proceed towards publication.



WED AM-1, September 13, 2017, WT-355a1 WT-374 G.hn

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Monday 24 October 2016

13:30-15:30

Roanoke
2nd Floor

Non PS Aligned

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agenda bashing

 

IPR declarations

 

 

Meeting Minutes:

bbf2016.928.01,

bbf2016.1147.00,

bbf2016.1145.00,

bbf2016.1144.00,

bbf2016.1142.00,

bbf2016.982.00,

bbf2016.983.00

Call Agendas and Minutes - FTTdp 'Q3 Interim Meetings'

 

Incoming Liaisons:

bbf2016.1047.00,

bbf2016.1046.00,

bbf2016.974.00,

bbf2016.978.00,

bbf2016.975.00 (FTTdp is Primary),

bbf2016.574.00

OD-379 Interoperability Test Plan for FTTdp PMA/DPU Management Interface

Led by:

Sven Ooghe

Christopher Croot

 

Attendees:

Marta Seda, Sumithra Bhojan, Ludwig Pauwels

Dong Wei, Nick Hancock, Vincent Buchoux

Mike Shaffer, Toshi Kusano

Richard Goodson, Ilya Lifshits

Joey Boyd, Bjoern Nagel

 

No changes to the agenda as discussed. Noted that 1071.01 was uploaded post deadline. It was agreed to accept the revision 01.

 

No IPR Declarations

 

 

 

 

 

 

Meeting minutes as mentioned in the contributions and those that are uploaded on the Wiki were approved. URL for those on the Wiki needs to be added.

(AP - URL for Q3 Interim Meetings was added)

 

 

 

 

 

bbf2016.1047 - SG15 to BBF - Will be reviewed in join session, but feeling is that it is just an FYI. No action needed from FTTdp.

bbf2016.1046 - Documents from ITU-T -  More FYI and notification of taking into account our feedback. No action needed from FTTdp.

bbf2016.974 - Incoming Liaison from ETSI ATTM TM6 - Question on the maximum latency allowed when forwarding message. Appears to be an implementation question rather than something that needs to be specified. We are aware of the necessity to send the message as quickly as possible, but we would not specify a particular value as it would be left up to implementer. Will discuss during joint session on Tuesday 4pm with PhyTX.

 

bbf2016.978 - Response from IETF on YANG model work - Acknowledging the fact we are referencing their work and collaborating with them. Highlighting work ongoing on QoS YANG model which is currently a personal draft that may become a working group draft. FYI and no response required from FTTdp.

bbf2016.975 -   Valid range for specific objects - Actual number of bits per symbol. Highlighting that there was a mistake in their previous documentation. Joey Boyd to confirm if this change has been actioned or not. No response required.

AP - Joey Boyd confirmed that this change has been actions. No further action required. 

bbf2016.574 - Old liaison that was held open to await papers on the IL-338.  Text changes have been made.

AP - Christopher Croot to create text to send latest version of VDSL YANG model highlighting that we have changed the text in accordance with their comment.

 

 No contributions at this meeting. Marcin Drzymala has suggested that he has an intention to provide contributions.

 

 

It was also mentioned that there was a possibility of  holding an interim meeting to tackle the SB comment resolution for TR-301i2 and this could be held in Ipswich at BT some time mid to late Jan 2017.

 

The opening session was concluded. 

2

Tuesday 25 October 2016

08:00-10:00

Grand Ballroom E
2nd Floor

FTTdp Management PS

 

 

 

WT-298i2 Mgmt. model for DSL line test:

bbf2016.1105.00

 

 

WT-374 Yang Models for Mgmt of G.hn Systems in FTTdp Architecture

 

WT-393 Persistent Mgmt Agent Aggregator (PMAA) Mgmt Model:

bbf2016.1124.00,

bbf2016.1119.00

Led by:

Ken Kerpez

Joey Boyd

 

Attendees:

Christopher Croot, Sven Ooghe, Richard Goodson, Nick Hancock

Ludwig Pauwels, Marta Seda, Vincent Buchoux, Dong Wei

 

 

bbf2016.1105.00

  • All comments accepted except for row 13 of the spreadsheet.
  • Joey Boyd to make the edits to the document.
  • Next step is to go to final ballot.

 

 

No new contributions. Current preference is to handle via conference calls.

 

 

bbf2016.1124.00

  • Agreed to include the requirements in WT-393.
  • Highlight the draft nature of schema mount.
  • Joey Boyd to add descriptive text to further explain how the schema mount is used in this context.

 

bbf2016.1119.00

  • Agreed to include in WT-393 some text/diagrams describing the relationships of how profiles are managed/stored by the various elements (NMS, PMAA, PMA, DPU).
3

Tuesday 25 October 2016

10:30-12:30

Grand Ballroom E
2nd Floor

Architecture & Requirements PS

 

WT-301i2 Fiber to the Distribution point:

bbf2015.1126.08,

bbf2012.1466.24,

bbf2016.1080.00,

bbf2016.1179.00

Led by: Mike Shaffer, Dong Wei

 

Attendees:

Christopher Croot, Marta Seda, Sumithra Bhojan, Ludwig Pauwels, Richard Goodson, Ken Ko, Joey Boyd, Bjoern Nagel, Vincent Buchoux, Frank Van der Putten, William Lupton, Jan Erreygers, Ken Kerpez, Nick Hancock

 

bbf2015.1126.08 (Draft WT-301i2)

 

bbf2012.1466.24 (Issues List for WT-301i2)

 

bbf2016.1080.00 ("Proposed text for WT-301i2"; ADTRAN, Calix, Nokia)

  • Presented by Ken Ko
  • A number of edits to WT-301 are proposed: to add necessary references and definitions; to clarify the specification of DUID-EN; and to make the text and requirements regarding DPU-PMA authentication consistent with source RFCs.
  • Proposed text were accepted. 

 

bbf2016.1179.00 (New TLVs for G.fast expected rate reporting; BT)

  • Presented by Christopher Croot
  • Table 14.1 of TR-301 still contains TBDs against the 2 ‘expected’ data rates for G.fast. This contribution proposes that these are now defined by the BBF.
  • AP - Christopher Croot will work offline with Thomas Haag to propose a draft liaison to the IETF, which will be discussed at a teleconference.  

 

How the NETCONF capability should be handled in WT-301i2 was discussed. It was suggested that this issue be addressed in either WT-301i3 or OD-379.

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Tuesday 25 October 2016

16:00-18:00

Grand Ballroom A,B,C & D

2nd Floor

JOINT SESSION
 Fiber to the Distribution Point
Physical Layer Transmission

Architecture & Requirements PS

Liaison:bbf2016.974.00

 

WT-301 FTTdp on Common G.fast and RPF issues:

bbf2016.1056.00,

bbf2016.1177.00,

bbf2016.1176.00

Led by Les Brown, Dong Wei 

 

bbf2016.1201.00 (Liaison from TM6 to the BBF on the next steps for Reverse Power Feeding)

 

bbf2016.974.00 (Liaison from TM6 to the BBF on the subject of latency on OAM for Reverse Power Feeding)

 

bbf2016.1056.00 ("Reverse power feed for coax"; AT&T, ADTRAN, Arris, Microsemi)

  • Presented by Tom Starr
  • Agreed to the proposed requirement for WT-301i2. 
  • AP - The authors will draft a liaison to ETSI to include a use case and study the RPF behavior on coax from the CPE’s to the DPU, providing TR-285a1 coax cable model annex for further study. The draft liaison will be discussed at a teleconference.

 

bbf2016.1177.00 ("G.fast Timing and Sync Requirements"; BT)

  • Presented by David Thorne
  • The proposed agreements in bbf2016.1177.01 were agreed. 

 

bbf2016.1176.00 ("G.fast Vectoring Strategies and Their Management"; BT)

  • Presented by David Thorne
  • AT&T supported the proposal.
  • Nokia, Calix, Intel, Metanoia, CommScope opposed to adopting the proposed requirements in WT-301i2
  • The proposed requirements were not agreed. 
 

Wednesday 26 October 2016

08:00-10:00

Grand Ballroom E
2nd Floor

FTTdp Management PS

WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt:

bbf2016.1131.00,

bbf2016.1071.02,

bbf2016.1082.00,

bbf2016.1081.00,

Led by: Ken Kerpez, Joey Boyd

bbf2016.1131.00 (Bonding Management: Adtran, Calix, and Nokia)

  • Presented by Marta Seda and Joey Boyd
  • Contains a new YANG module for Ethernet-based bonding of VDSL2 and G.fast, based on TR-159.
  • There is an associated list of open issues. Two new issues came from discussion:
    • Implementation of when and must constraints in XML on the line should be validated.
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    • How does the model attach to PTM or ATM through fastdsl or other interfaces.
  • Accepted as a baseline model for bonding, to be further improved and should eventually be incorporated in WT-355. The model will go into Bitbucket, issues are to go into JIRA by November 18.
bbf2016.1071.02 (Errors found in TR-355 issue 1 (part 2): Nokia)
  • Presented by Frank Van der Putten
  • Sections 2, and 3: agreed to description change, and to add status deprecated to these parameters; description of 3: change “TR-355” to “this data model.”
  • Sections 4, 5, agreed.
  • Section 6 not agreed, not backward compatible.
  • Section 7, 8, agreed.
  • Section 9 not agreed, not backward compatible. Instead write in the description that all profiles must be configured, add description to direct or indirect attachment. (e.g., they are mandatory).
  • Section 10. Need to move xtse into line-spectrum-profile. Agreed to deprecate xdsl-transmission-system-enabling and add a new xtse into line-spectrum-profile. Explain reason for deprecation in description. Also deprecate useless xtse in spectrum.
  • Section 11, agreed, do not make mandatory.
  • Section 12, not agreed.
  • Section 13, agreed. Will deprecate part of the grouping.
  • Agreed to incorporate these and previous changes in the YANG and send a corrigendum to WT-355a0 to straw ballot, with the shortest ballot cycle possible.

bbf2016.1082.00 (YANG Module for PON Uplink Identification: Adtran)

Deferred to closing FTTdp Management session or teleconference.

bbf2016.1081.00
(YANG Module for RPF: Adtran)

Deferred to closing FTTdp Management session or teleconference. 

Thursday 27 October 2016

13:30-16:15

Grand Ballroom E
2nd Floor

Joint Session

Common YANG &

 Fiber to the Distribution Point

WT-383 Common YANG (new work): cont. (if FTTdp agrees)

OD-360 Best Current Practices for developing YANG models:

bbf2016.1039.01,

bbf2016.1141.00 (Tools Discussion)

Attendees : Sven Ooghe, Christopher Croot, William Lupton, Ken Kerpez

Dong Wei, Marta Seda, Tom Starr, Joey Boyd, Jan Erreygers, Ludwig Pauwels

bbf2016.1039.01 presented by Ken Kerpez

Contribution about publication mechanics for YANG models.

Method of posting new releases, minor revisions, etc.

Tags can be used in github / Bitbucket

Suggested fairly simple tagging convention.

William Lupton presented the release timeline / diagram

Suggestion to take all this onto WiKi

 

Accepted the remove the separate hotfix. Agree to the baseline of the text.

 

 

Thursday 27 October 2016

 

13:30-16:15

 

Grand Ballroom E
2nd Floor

 

Fiber to the Distribution Point Closing

 

Liaison: bbf2016.1224.00, bbf2016.1225.00

 

Agree next steps
Finalize outgoing liaisons
Teleconference schedule
Closing plenary slides

Led by:

Christopher Croot, Sven Ooghe

 

Attendees:

William Lupton, Ken Kerpez, Dong Wei, Marta Seda, Tom Starr, Joey Boyd, Jan Erreygers, Ludwig Pauwels, Les Brown, Marcin Drzymala

 

Liaisons bbf2016.1224 & bbf2016.1225 reviewed and amended.

Revisions 01 agreed, posted to the secretariat and uploaded to ARO.

WT-298i2 agreed to have FB ready version to review on one of the interim teleconferences for the formal agreement to start the FB process.

 

Review of CP slides:

 

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November 23, 2016; WT-355

ItemDescriptionAction/Status/Comments/Who1

IPR declarations

Agenda bashing

Led by: Ken Kerpez, Joey Boyd

Attendees: William Lupton, Chris Croot, Frank Van Der Putten, Nick Hancock, Sven Ooghe, Marcin Drzymala, Nick Hancock, Dariusz, Robert Peschi, Mike Shaffer

2bbf2016.1081.00.zip (YANG Module for RPF: Adtran)Presented by Joey Boyd. It was noted that RPF should be coupled to the port, not the interface. A port index should be added, perhaps by augmenting the equipment module. There was discussion of perhaps using profiles, although there are only two config parameters. These issues, and the alarms, need further work; so this will be updated offline and brought back to WT-355a1.3

bbf2016.1082.00.zip (YANG Module for PON Uplink Identification: Adtran)

Agreed to edit description of container pon. It was noted that model 2 DPUs may not have a one to one relation of interface to uplink, and pluggables may report different data. This needs further work and will be updated offline and brought back to WT-355a1.4

bbf2016.1229.00.docx (Errors found in WT-355 (part 3): Nokia)

Agreed to items 2 and 3. Item 4 should be discussed further. These will all be brought back as straw ballot comments to WT-355c1.5

WT-355c1_Rev.02.pdf (WT-355 Corrigendum 1, YANG Modules for FTTdp Management: editors)

The straw ballot on WT-355c1 should commence Monday, November 28th for a two week duration.  The closing date will be Monday, December 12, 2016. A conference call should be scheduled for the week of December 12, no earlier than December 13, to discuss ballot comments.

 

 

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December 12, 2016; WT-374

ItemDescriptionAction/Status/Comments/Who1

IPR declarations

Agenda bashing

Led by: Ken Kerpez

Attendees: William Lupton, Unknown User (marcosm@marvell.com), Tomer Cohen

2bbf2016.1273.00  (Proposal to update WT-374 : Marvell)

William will look into getting interface type "Ghn" from IANA.

The addition of feature statements should be studied, particularly for domain-wide objects. Development branches were discussed.

It was agreed to merge the pull request containing this contribution into the develop branch of WT-374, subject to completion of the Marvell copyright declaration form.

 

 

 

Archived & Agreed Minutes / Agendas

 

Agenda bashing

Led by: Ken Kerpez,Joey Boyd

Attendees: Christopher Croot, Nick Hancock, Marcos Martinez

2

CONTRIB-20064, Proposal to update WT-374

Marcos Martinez presented the contribution which introduces new parameters into the model.

Proposal to adopt the proposed software for inclusion in the WT-374 model. There are about 10 parameters that are currently missing which will be provided for an interim conference call.

That should then mean the document could go to SB out of the conference call.

Document was approved for inclusion.







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August 1, 2017; WT-355

ItemDescriptionAction/Status/Comments/Who
1

IPR declarations

Agenda bashing

Led by: Ken Kerpez,Joey Boyd

Attendees:Frank Van der Putten, Sven Ooghe, Nick Hancock, Tom Starr, Christopher Croot, Michael Fargano

2

bbf2017.592.00 

Proposed additions to WT-355a1 for RPF 

 Agreed as "proposed text." Joey to implement changes within a few weeks.

3

bbf2017.564.01 

WT-355 cor2 some more errors to fix 

Went through each comment, added a row-by-row disposition of each comment in a new last column of bbf2017.564.02.docx

Frank to draft a liaison to ITU-T SG15/Q4 for the comment on page 8.

4Discuss timing of publication of WT-355 Amendment 1 and WT-355 Corrigendum 2

Agreed to send Cor 2 to straw ballot ASAP.

Joey to implement changes within a few weeks.

Amd 1 is still in development, should include G.997.2 Amd 4, alarms and notifications, etc.



July 19, 2017; WT-374

ItemDescriptionAction/Status/Comments/Who
1

IPR declarations

Agenda bashing

Led by: Ken Kerpez,Joey Boyd

Attendees: Marcos Martinez, William Lupton, Les Humphrey, Marcin Drzymala, Sven Ooghe, Bob Sinclair

2

bbf2017.593.00 

Proposal to update WT-374 

Describes various improvements to the WT-374 YANG. The actual changes are in a pull request on Bitbucket. It was agreed that the pull request will be posted, with a one-week review announced via email.

Not all parameters listed in this contribution are encoded as YANG parameters yet, this needs to be done before going to straw ballot, hopefully in September.

3Informal discussion of IETF NMDAWilliam briefly presented new proposals in the IETF for new NETCONF datastores, and the potential combination of state and config trees.





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2017 Q2 Face to Face Meeting - Taipei

ItemTimeslot / Session /LocationAction/Status/Comments/Who
1

Monday 15th May 2017

13:30-15:30

North Gate (Level B1)

Non PS Aligned


Agenda bashing


IPR declarations


Meeting Minutes:



Incoming Liaisons:


NPIFS:

Led by: Christopher Croot, Sven Ooghe


Attendees: Joey Boyd, Ludwig Pauwels, Nick Hancock,Chin-Ping Chuang (CHT), Ya-Ping Huang (CHT), Jose Salgado (Altice Labs), Robert Peschi


IPR declarations : no declarations


Meeting minutes: the minutes have been approved as uploaded on ARO and as written on the BBF FTTdp wiki page.


Incoming liaisons: None


NPIFs: there were no new NPIFs
2

Tuesday 16th May 2017

08:00-10:00

East Gate (Level B1)


FTTdp Management PS



WT-355 - YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt:

2017.446, 2017.485


Led by: Joey Boyd, Ken Kerpez


Attendees:


WT-355 YANG Modules for FTTdp Management:

2017.446 - Changes for inclusion in WT-355c2. The following items were discussed:

  • Line 380 inbbf-fast-pointers.yang, agreed to update description

  • Line 434 in bbf-vdsl-impulse-noise-protection-delay-profile-body.yang, agreed to deprecate upstream mdosplit and explain in the description that upstream + downstream = 100% so that's why upstream was deprecated.

  • Line 476 in bbf-vdsl-impulse-noise-protection-delay-profile-body.yang, agreed to deprecate upstream and fix description

  • Line 504 in bbf-vdsl-impulse-noise-protection-delay-profile-body.yang, agreed to deprecate upstream and fix description

  • Line 119 in bbf-vdsl-line-spectrum-profile-body.yang, no change agreed

  • Line 137 in bbf-vdsl-line-spectrum-profile-body.yang, agreed to add default "all" to power-management-mode

  • Line 202 in bbf-vdsl-line-spectrum-profile-body.yang, agreed to add must statement: l2-maximum-aggregate-power-reduction-per <= l2-maximum-aggregate-power-reduction-total

  • Line 253 in bbf-vdsl-mode-specific-psd-profile-body.yang, not agreed, no change made to upstream_psd_mask_selection

    • Agreed to add text to OD-360 noting that backward compatibility is more important than changing style issues.

  • Line 152 in bbf-vdsl-noise-margin-profile-body.yang, agreed to expand the must statement for maximum-noise-margin by adding: or (max == "unbounded")

  • Line 370 in bbf-vdsl-pointers.yang, leaf line-config-vector, no change agreed

  • Line 380 in bbf-vdsl-pointers.yang, threshold-template, agreed to add to description field: "If no template is configured, then TCA reporting is disabled."

  • Line 103 in bbf-vdsl-virtual-noise-profile-body.yang, grouping vn-descriptor, agreed to make max-elements be 16 for upstream and 32 for downstream

  • Line 167 in bbf-vdsl-virtual-noise-profile-body.yang, virtual-noise-profile (downstream), agreed to add a must statement so that there cannot be a single element

  • Line 219 in bbf-vdsl-virtual-noise-profile-body.yang, virtual-noise-profile (upstream), agreed to add a must statement so that there cannot be a single element

  • Line 270 in bbf-vdsl-xtu-band-status-body.yang, upbo-electrical-length-pbn, agreed to add to description "For ADSL systems, a single parameter is defined for band = 0, as a single band is usable."

  • Line 302 in bbf-vdsl-xtu-line-status-body.yang, profile, agreed to remove config false; (other spurious config false; occurrences should also be searched and destroyed)

  • Line 420 in bbf-vdsl-xtu-line-status-body.yang, attndr-actual-method, agreed to change valid range to 0..2

There were some additional rows in the contribution that were inadvertently copied, were redundant, and not addressed.

It was agreed to create a WT-355 Corrigendum 2, post it on Bitbucket, and proceed to a rapid straw ballot


2017.485.01 - Awareness of new FTU Management Counter

  • Notes that a new counter is being defined by the ITU for G.fast: All Normal Operation Interval (NOI) Error Free Throughput (ANDEFTR). This is likely to be consented by the ITU in June, there is no action by the BBF at this time but we should be ready for it.



 

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Tuesday 16th May 2017

10:30-12:30

East Gate (Level B1)

JOINT SESSION  

Fiber to the Distribution Point

Common YANG

Common YANG /  FTTdp Management PS


WT-383a1 Common YANG Modules for Access Networks, cont.


Events and Notifications:

2017.332.00, 2017.425.00, 2017.442.00


Ethernet:

2017.323.01, 2017.373.00


Performance monitoring:

2017.339.00


QoS:

2017.369.00, 2017.444.00




Attendees:



 

Events and Notifications:

2017.332.00, 2017.425.00, 2017.442.00


Ethernet:

2017.323.01, 2017.373.00


Performance monitoring:

2017.339.00


QoS:

2017.369.00, 2017.444.00

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Tuesday 16th May 2017

13:30-15:30

Far Eastern Grand Ballroom (Level 3)

JOINT SESSION  

Fiber to the Distribution Point

Common YANG

Fibre Access Networks

Common YANG

FTTdp Management

PON Management



SPAC readout on NC/Y and FTTdp testing needs: 2017.435.00 (NPIF), 2017.452.00


WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt:

2017.392.00


WT-383a1 Common YANG Modules for Access Networks, cont.

Security:

2017.337.00


Hardware:

2017.370.00, 2017.385.00


Other:

2017.264.00, 2017.336.01, 2017.338.00, 2017.384.00

Attendees:





 








SPAC readout on NC/Y and FTTdp testing needs:

2017.435.00 (NPIF), 2017.452.00


WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt:

2017.392.00


WT-383a1 Common YANG Modules for Access Networks, cont.

Security:

2017.337.00


Hardware:

2017.370.00, 2017.385.00


Other:

2017.264.00, 2017.336.01, 2017.338.00, 2017.384.00


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Tuesday 16th May 2017

16:00-18:00

Premier (Level 3)

JOINT SESSION  

Fiber to the Distribution Point

Physical Layer Transmission


Liaisons:

General

2017.485 - Awareness of new FTU Management Counter


WT-301 Arch and Req for FTTdp:

2017.493 - DPU daisy chaining

2017.496 - Alternative DPU backhaul


i2 FTTdp on Common G.fast and RPF:


FTTdp Management Interop and Testing

OD-379 Interoperability Test Plan for FTTdp PMA/DPU

Management Interface:

2017.452 - Copper Interface Status test proposal


Led by: Les Brown, Dong Wei

 

Attendees :

Chris Croot, Sven Ooghe, David Thorne, Kevin Foster, Tony Zeng, Richard Goodson, Ken Kerpez, Frank Van der Putten, Aleksandra Kozarev, Fred Chu, Martin Casey, Sven Leimer, Herman Verbueken, Marta Seda, Tom Starr, Erez Ben-Tovim, Madhu Hegde, Mercel Reitmann, Eric Wang, Les Humphrey, Jo Maes, Macin Drzymala, Steve Chen, Marcos Matinez, Tomer Cohen


General

2017.485.01 - Awareness of new FTU Management Counter

  • Presented by Chris Croot (BT)
  • It has been presented at FTTdp session.
  • This contribution is to make attendees of the work area aware that there is a new parameter being proposed for addition to ITU-T Recommendation G.997.2 that could be of benefit to include in some of the work of the BBF
  • For information only


WT-301 Arch and Req for FTTdp:

2017.493.01 - DPU daisy chaining

  • Presented by Dave Thorne (BT)
  • Various topics were suggested as candidates for an Issue 3 of TR-301 (FTTdp) in BBF2017.251. One of these was the idea of daisy chaining DPUs to reduce backhaul costs.This contribution provides further details of that architecture and its implications for the DPU.
  • The author did not ask for agreement at this time


2017.496 - Alternative DPU backhaul

  • Presented by Dave Thorne (BT)
  • This contribution proposes reconsideration of multi-pair bonded VDSL as a possible G.fast DPU backhaul
  • The author did not ask for agreement at this time


i2 FTTdp on Common G.fast and RPF: No contribution


FTTdp Management Interop and Testing

OD-379 Interoperability Test Plan for FTTdp PMA/DPU

Management Interface:

2017.452 - Copper Interface Status test proposal

  • Presented by Ken Kerpez (ASSIA, Orange)
  • This contribution proposes a simple line status test as an initial check to verify a parameter read
  • Agreed to the proposed test procedure without Step 7 

 

Discussion

It was mentioned that while contribution 2017.458 "G.fast RPF - PSE noise testing" is for PHYtx, a relevant contribution may be submitted for WT-301 in the future.


SPAC readout

2017.519 - SPAC readout on G.mgfast discussion

  • Presented by Mauro Tilocca



6

 

Thursday 23rd March 2017 

13:30-16:00

 East Gate (Level B1)

JOINT SESSION  

Fiber to the Distribution Point

Common YANG


OD-360 Best Current Practices for developing YANG models:

2017.183.00


WT-383a1 Common YANG, cont.


Non-PS Assigned:

Agree next steps
Finalize outgoing liaisons
Teleconference schedule
Closing plenary slides

Led by: Christopher Croot, Sven Ooghe


Attendees: 11


OD-360 Best Current Practices for developing YANG models:

2017.183.00


Agree next steps: due to the light load of contributions, we anticipate we only need a single session in the next meeting.

Finalize outgoing liaisons

Teleconference schedule

Closing plenary slides


WT-383a1 Common YANG, cont.






Recent Meetings

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title2017 Q1 Meeting - Chicago

2017 Q1 Face to Face Meeting - Chicago

ItemTimeslot / Session /LocationAction/Status/Comments/Who
1

Monday 20th March 2017

13:30-15:30

State A (8th Floor)

Non PS Aligned


Agenda bashing

IPR declarations

Meeting Minutes: 2016.983, 2016.982, 2016.1147, 2016.1145, 2016.1144, 2016.1142


Incoming Liaisons:

2016.1237.00,

2016.1247.00,

2016.1267.00,

2016.1286.00,

2017.073.00,

2017.091.00


NPIFS:

Led by:

Sven Ooghe


Attendees: Sumithra Bhojan, Joey Boyd, Dong Wei, Nick Hancock


Meeting minutes: the minutes have been approved as uploaded on ARO and as written on the BBF FTTdp wiki page.


Incoming liaisons:

2016.1237.00: ITU-T Q4 on requirements for mobile backhaul. No action required (deadline for feedback passed)

2016.1247.00: ETSI TM6 on PE-PEB for Reverse Power Feeding

Should have been covered during the comment resolution of WT-301 issue 2. Dong will check with Mike.

2016.1267.00: IEEE 802.3 reply to BBF laison on "Low Power Modes for Fibre backhaul for FTTdp". Informational, no action required.

2016.1286.00: SG15 reply to liaison on “Low Power Modes for Fibre backhaul for FTTdp”. Informational, no action required.

2017.073.00: TM6 on additional RPF OAM and DPU Managed Objects. BBF in copy, sent to us for information. No action required at this time.

2017.091.00: SG15 on G.997.2 IARBANDS managed object

Has been integrated in the latest WT-355 YANG modules, no further action needed.


NPIFs: there were no new NPIFs
2

Tuesday 21st March 2017

08:00-10:00

LaSalle (7th Floor)


FTTdp Management Interop & Testing PS / FTTdp Management PS

OD-379 Interoperability Test Plan for FTTdp PMA/DPU Management Interface:

2017.120.00

2017.211.00


WT-355c1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt (Passed FB):

2016.1241.03

2017.055.02


WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt:

2017.132.00

2017.126.00

2017.129.00


WT-298i2 Mgmt. model for DSL line test (Passed FB):

2016.386.04


Led by: Joey Boyd, Ken Kerpez


Attendees: Lincoln Lavoie, Martin Casey, Ken Kerpez, Sven Ooghe, Joey Boyd


OD-379 Interoperability Test Plan for FTTdp PMA/DPU Management Interface:

2017.120.00, "Parameter Read/Write Tests Proposal" (Kerpez, Ken, ASSIA; Peter Silverman, ASSIA; Drzymala, Marcin, Orange)

  • Agree to adopt the two proposed test cases as working text into OD-379.

2017.211.00, "DPU-PMA discovery tests proposal" (Drzymala, Marcin, Orange; Parol, Pawel, Orange; Kerpez, Ken, ASSIA)

  • Agree to adopt the proposed test setups, with the the following change: the packet sniffer should be connected to the HON port, configured to mirror the traffic on the access link.
  • Agree to adopt the four proposed text cases, adding the following editors note:
    • The verification of TLS parameters is subject to the availability of these parameters outside of the encrypted channel.

WT-355c1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt (Passed FB):

2016.1241.03

  • Reviewed for information, WT-355c1 is in the process of being published on public Github

2017.055.02

  • Reviewed for information, all resolutions are green now

WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt:

2017.132.00

  • Agreed to put these changes into WT-355 Amd 1, in release 1.1 on Bitbucket

2017.126.00

  • Frank Van der Putten to draft a liaison to ITU-T SG15/Q4, cc'd to ETSI, on Question 2.
  • Agreed as baseline, subject to changing base identity depending on further work.

2017.129.00

  • Discussed all issues, disposition is posted on JIRA:
    Jira
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WT-298i2 Mgmt. model for DSL line test (Passed FB):

2016.386.04

  • It was noted that WT-298i2 passed final ballot.

 

3

Tuesday 21st March 2017

10:30-12:30

LaSalle (7th Floor)


FTTdp Management Interop & Testing PS / FTTdp Management PS


WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt, cont.



WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt, cont.


 

4

Tuesday 21st March 2017

13:30-15:30

South Ballroom (8th Floor)

JOINT SESSION  

Fiber to the Distribution Point

Common YANG

FTTdp Management PS


WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt:

2017.188.00,

2017.133.00,

2017.166.00,

2017.175.00,

2017.178.00


WT-355a1 and WT-383 cont:

Goto Call Agendas and Minutes - Common YANG#CommonYANG-2:Tuesday21stMarch2017(PM1;jointwithFTTdp)


 


5

Tuesday 21st March 2017

16:00-18:00

South Ballroom (8th Floor)

JOINT SESSION  

Fiber to the Distribution Point

Physical Layer Transmission

Architecture & Requirements PS


Liaisons:

2016.1286.00

2017.091.00

2017.240.00


WT-301i2 FTTdp on Common G.fast and RPF issues:

2017.251.00

Led by: Les Brown, Dong Wei

 

Attendees : about 30

 

Liaisons:

2017.240.00

  • Agreed to the following revisions: remove the figure, reference to the figure in the original document; replace Olivier with Aleksandra as the liaison communication person to ETSI TM6

 

2016.1286.00

  • Agreed to send a liaison to ITU-T Q2/15 and Q4/15 to address the issue about communication of low power mode information between the G.fast sub-system and the optical backhaul sub-system (Les Humphrey volunteered to prepare a draft liaison, which will be reviewed at a PHYtx session later this week)

 

2017.091.00

  • No action needed as it has already been implemented in WT-355c1

 

WT-301 (FTTdp Architectures and Requirements):

WT-301i2 Final Ballot

  • Agreed to make the following editorial change to WT-301i2: the sub-option numbers for DPU discovery and PMA offer from 160 and 161 to 192 and 193, respectively, and to inform the BBF secretary of the change 

 

2017.251.00

  • No action needed as the authors only asked for feedbacks.

 


6

 

Thursday 23rd March 2017 

13:30-16:15

 LaSalle (7th Floor)

JOINT SESSION  

Fiber to the Distribution Point

Common YANG


OD-360 Best Current Practices for developing YANG models:

2017.183.00

WT-383a1 Common YANG (new and updated proposals):

cont.


Retrospective on our experiences with YANG & how to improve the process: we will look back to the recent work in WT-355 and WT-383 and answer the following questions: What did we do well? What did we not do well? How can we improve going forward?


Non-PS Assigned:

Agree next steps Finalize outgoing liaisons Teleconference schedule Closing plenary slides

Led by: Sven Ooghe, William Lupton

Attendees: Joey Boyd, Richard Goodson, Nick Hancock, Ludwig Pauwels, Bjoern Nagel, Mike Shaffer, Ken Kerpez, Marta Seda, Raidu Rayasam, Samuel Chen, Charles Cook


Closing plenary slides were reviewed and agreed with the group

Proposed liaison bbf2017.240.02 on RPF over coax for G.fast was reviewed and agreed with the group


OD-360 Best Current Practices for developing YANG models:

2017.183.00



WT-383a1 Common YANG (new and updated proposals):



Retrospective on our experiences with YANG & how to improve the process:



Agree next steps

Finalize outgoing liaisons

Teleconference schedule

Closing plenary slides









Archived & Agreed Minutes / Agendas

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