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Q3 - FTTdp, Helsinki WED AM-1, September 13, 2017, Work Area Opening & Closing Minutes:
2017 Q1 Face to Face Meeting - ChicagoItem | Timeslot / Session /Location
Monday 20th March 201713:30-15:30State A (8th Floor)Non PS Aligned
IPR declarations Meeting Minutes: 2016.983, 2016.982, 2016.1147, 2016.1145, 2016.1144, 2016.1142Incoming Liaisons: 2016.1237.00, 2016.1247.00, 2016.1267.00, 2016.1286.00, 2017.073.00, 2017.091.00 NPIFS: Led by: Attendees: Sumithra Bhojan, Joey Boyd, Dong Wei, Nick Hancock Meeting minutes: the minutes have been approved as uploaded on ARO and as written on the BBF FTTdp wiki page. Incoming liaisons: 2016.1237.00: ITU-T Q4 on requirements for mobile backhaul. No action required (deadline for feedback passed)2016.1247.00: ETSI TM6 on PE-PEB for Reverse Power Feeding Should have been covered during the comment resolution of WT-301 issue 2. Dong will check with Mike. 2016.1267.00: IEEE 802.3 reply to BBF laison on "Low Power Modes for Fibre backhaul for FTTdp". Informational, no action required. 2016.1286.00: SG15 reply to liaison on “Low Power Modes for Fibre backhaul for FTTdp”. Informational, no action required. 2017.073.00: TM6 on additional RPF OAM and DPU Managed Objects. BBF in copy, sent to us for information. No action required at this time.2017.091.00: SG15 on G.997.2 IARBANDS managed object Has been integrated in the latest WT-355 YANG modules, no further action needed. NPIFs: there were no new NPIFs2 | Tuesday 21st March 201708:00-10:00LaSalle (7th Floor)FTTdp Management Interop & Testing PS / FTTdp Management PS OD-379 Interoperability Test Plan for FTTdp PMA/DPU Management Interface: 2017.120.00 2017.211.00 WT-355c1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt (Passed FB): 2016.1241.03 2017.055.02 WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt: 2017.132.00 2017.126.00 2017.129.00 WT-298i2 Mgmt. model for DSL line test (Passed FB): 2016.386.04 Led by: Joey Boyd, Ken Kerpez Attendees: Lincoln Lavoie, Martin Casey, Ken Kerpez, Sven Ooghe, Joey Boyd OD-379 Interoperability Test Plan for FTTdp PMA/DPU Management Interface: 2017.120.00, "Parameter Read/Write Tests Proposal" (Kerpez, Ken, ASSIA; Peter Silverman, ASSIA; Drzymala, Marcin, Orange)
2017.211.00, "DPU-PMA discovery tests proposal" (Drzymala, Marcin, Orange; Parol, Pawel, Orange; Kerpez, Ken, ASSIA)
WT-355c1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt (Passed FB): 2016.1241.03
2017.055.02 Reviewed for information, all resolutions are green nowWT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt: 2017.132.00
2017.126.00
2017.129.00
WT-298i2 Mgmt. model for DSL line test (Passed FB): 2016.386.04
3 | Tuesday 21st March 201710:30-12:30LaSalle (7th Floor)FTTdp Management Interop & Testing PS / FTTdp Management PS WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt, cont. WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt, cont.
4 | Tuesday 21st March 201713:30-15:30South Ballroom (8th Floor)JOINT SESSIONFiber to the Distribution PointCommon YANGFTTdp Management PS WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt: 2017.188.00, 2017.133.00, 2017.166.00, 2017.175.00, 2017.178.00 WT-355a1 and WT-383 cont: Goto Call Agendas and Minutes - Common YANG#CommonYANG-2:Tuesday21stMarch2017(PM1;jointwithFTTdp)
5 | Tuesday 21st March 201716:00-18:00South Ballroom (8th Floor)JOINT SESSIONFiber to the Distribution PointPhysical Layer TransmissionArchitecture & Requirements PS Liaisons: 2016.1286.00 2017.091.00 2017.240.00 WT-301i2 FTTdp on Common G.fast and RPF issues: 2017.251.00
Attendees : about 30
Liaisons: 2017.240.00
2016.1286.00
2017.091.00
WT-301 (FTTdp Architectures and Requirements): WT-301i2 Final Ballot
2017.251.00
6 | Thursday 23rd March 201713:30-16:15LaSalle (7th Floor)JOINT SESSIONFiber to the Distribution PointCommon YANGOD-360 Best Current Practices for developing YANG models: 2017.183.00 WT-383a1 Common YANG (new and updated proposals): cont. Retrospective on our experiences with YANG & how to improve the process: we will look back to the recent work in WT-355 and WT-383 and answer the following questions: What did we do well? What did we not do well? How can we improve going forward? Non-PS Assigned: Agree next steps Finalize outgoing liaisons Teleconference schedule Closing plenary slides Led by: Sven Ooghe, William Lupton Attendees: Joey Boyd, Richard Goodson, Nick Hancock, Ludwig Pauwels, Bjoern Nagel, Mike Shaffer, Ken Kerpez, Marta Seda, Raidu Rayasam, Samuel Chen, Charles Cook Closing plenary slides were reviewed and agreed with the group Proposed liaison bbf2017.240.02 on RPF over coax for G.fast was reviewed and agreed with the group OD-360 Best Current Practices for developing YANG models: 2017.183.00 WT-383a1 Common YANG (new and updated proposals): Retrospective on our experiences with YANG & how to improve the process: Agree next steps Finalize outgoing liaisons Teleconference schedule Closing plenary slides | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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2017 Q2 Face to Face Meeting - Taipei
2017 Q1 Face to Face Meeting - Chicago
WT-298i2 Mgmt. model for DSL line test (Passed FB): 2016.386.04 452 - Copper Interface Status test proposal
Attendees : Chris Croot, Sven Ooghe, David Thorne, Kevin Foster, Tony Zeng, Richard Goodson, Ken Kerpez, Frank Van der Putten, Aleksandra Kozarev, Fred Chu, Martin Casey, Sven Leimer, Herman Verbueken, Marta Seda, Tom Starr, Erez Ben-Tovim, Madhu Hegde, Mercel Reitmann, Eric Wang, Les Humphrey, Jo Maes, Macin Drzymala, Steve Chen, Marcos Matinez, Tomer Cohen General 2017.485.01 - Awareness of new FTU Management Counter
WT-301 Arch and Req for FTTdp: 2017.493.01 - DPU daisy chaining
2017.496 - Alternative DPU backhaul
i2 FTTdp on Common G.fast and RPF: No contribution FTTdp Management Interop and Testing OD-379 Interoperability Test Plan for FTTdp PMA/DPU Management Interface: 2017.452 - Copper Interface Status test proposal
Discussion It was mentioned that while contribution 2017.458 "G.fast RPF - PSE noise testing" is for PHYtx, a relevant contribution may be submitted for WT-301 in the future. SPAC readout 2017.519 - SPAC readout on G.mgfast discussion
6 | Thursday 23rd March 201713:30-16:00East Gate (Level B1)JOINT SESSION
3 | Tuesday 21st March 201710:30-12:30LaSalle (7th Floor)FTTdp Management Interop & Testing PS / FTTdp Management PS WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt, cont. WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp Mgmt, cont.
4 | Tuesday 21st March 201713:30-15:30South Ballroom (8th Floor)JOINT SESSIONFiber to the Distribution PointCommon YANGFTTdp Management PS WT-355a1 YANG Modules for FTTdp MgmtOD-360 Best Current Practices for developing YANG models: 188,2017.133.00, 2017.166.00, 2017.175.00, 2017.178.00 WT-355a1 and WT-383 cont: Goto Call Agendas and Minutes - Common YANG#CommonYANG-2:Tuesday21stMarch2017(PM1;jointwithFTTdp)
5 | Tuesday 21st March 201716:00-18:00South Ballroom (8th Floor)JOINT SESSIONFiber to the Distribution PointPhysical Layer TransmissionArchitecture & Requirements PS Liaisons: 2016.1286.00 2017.091.00 2017.240.00 WT-301i2 FTTdp on Common G.fast and RPF issues: 2017.251.00
Attendees : about 30
Liaisons: 2017.240.00
2016.1286.00
2017.091.00
WT-301 (FTTdp Architectures and Requirements): WT-301i2 Final Ballot
2017.251.00
6 | Thursday 23rd March 201713:30-16:15LaSalle (7th Floor)JOINT SESSIONFiber to the Distribution PointCommon YANGOD-360 Best Current Practices for developing YANG models: 2017.183.00 WT-383a1 Common YANG (new and updated proposals): cont. Retrospective on our experiences with YANG & how to improve the process: we will look back to the recent work in WT-355 and WT-383 and answer the following questions: What did we do well? What did we not do well? How can we improve going forward? Non-PS Assigned: Agree next steps Led by: Sven Ooghe, William Lupton Attendees: Joey Boyd, Richard Goodson, Nick Hancock, Ludwig Pauwels, Bjoern Nagel, Mike Shaffer, Ken Kerpez, Marta Seda, Raidu Rayasam, Samuel Chen, Charles Cook Closing plenary slides were reviewed and agreed with the group Proposed liaison bbf2017.240.02 on RPF over coax for G.fast was reviewed and agreed with the group OD-360 Best Current Practices for developing YANG models: 2017.183.00 WT-383a1 Common YANG (new and updated proposals): Retrospective on our experiences with YANG & how to improve the process: Agree next steps Finalize outgoing liaisonsTeleconference scheduleClosing plenary slides |
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| Item | Description | Action/Status/Comments/Who | 1 | IPR declarations Agenda bashing | Led by: Ken Kerpez,Joey Boyd Attendees: | Review implemented changes to WT-355c1 | A few items marked in red on bbf2016.1287.01.xls will be addressed by the editors | 2 | bbf2017.058.00, Yang performance with per sub-carrier data (Nokia) | It was noted that the XML does not need carriage rturns and could be represented more compactly, and that the parser could use parallel processing for better speed. After discussion it was agreed to represent the per-subcarrier objects listed in this contribution to a binary/Byte format. Also, the bbf-selt per-subcarrier objects will be converted to binary/Byte, e.g., selt.uer, selt.qln, selt.tflog. Joey to post an email on IETF-NETMOD asking for guidance on the use of binary format for large files. | 3 | bbf2017.055.01, NOKIA straw ballot comments on WT-355cor1 (Nokia) | All comments resolved as recorded in bbf2016.1287.01.xls | 4 | bbf2017.046.00, ASSIA comments on WT-355c1 (ASSIA) | All comments resolved as recorded in bbf2016.1287.01.xls | 5 | Timeline | The following approximate timeline for WT-355c1 publication was agreed: Edits from this call are to be uploaded by the editors within about a week. Comments on implementation of these changes are due before February 17. Final ballot version upload by February 22. Final ballot to commence by February 27 for completion at the Q1 BBF meeting. | |||||||||||||
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2 | bbf2016.1278.00.xls, NOKIA straw ballot comments on WT-355cor1 | All comments in bbf2016.1278 were addressed, and their resolutions are documented in bbf2016.1287.00.xls. It was agreed by all attendees to allow changes that are not backward compatible at this time, however this practice is to be discouraged in the future. Joey Boyd volunteered to implement all these changes and make a pull request incorporating them on Bitbucket. Ken Kerpez will review that pull request. After the pull request is merged an email will be sent to the email exploder requesting further review and requesting additional straw ballot comments on WT-355c1. A teleconference to review further straw ballot comments will be requested for the week of January 23-27. Final ballot will be determined on that teleconference. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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2 | bbf2016.1273.00 (Proposal to update WT-374 : Marvell) | William will look into getting interface type "Ghn" from IANA.
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1 | IPR declarations Agenda bashing | Led by: Ken Kerpez, Joey Boyd Attendees: William Lupton, Chris Croot, Frank Van Der Putten, Nick Hancock, Sven Ooghe, Marcin Drzymala, Nick Hancock, Dariusz, Robert Peschi, Mike Shaffer | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
2 | bbf2016.1081.00.zip (YANG Module for RPF: Adtran) | Presented by Joey Boyd. It was noted that RPF should be coupled to the port, not the interface. A port index should be added, perhaps by augmenting the equipment module. There was discussion of perhaps using profiles, although there are only two config parameters. These issues, and the alarms, need further work; so this will be updated offline and brought back to WT-355a1. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
3 | bbf2016.1082.00.zip (YANG Module for PON Uplink Identification: Adtran) | Agreed to edit description of container pon. It was noted that model 2 DPUs may not have a one to one relation of interface to uplink, and pluggables may report different data. This needs further work and will be updated offline and brought back to WT-355a1. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
4 | bbf2016.1229.00.docx (Errors found in WT-355 (part 3): Nokia) | Agreed to items 2 and 3. Item 4 should be discussed further. These will all be brought back as straw ballot comments to WT-355c1. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
5 | WT-355c1_Rev.02.pdf (WT-355 Corrigendum 1, YANG Modules for FTTdp Management: editors) | The straw ballot on WT-355c1 should commence Monday, November 28th for a two week duration. The closing date will be Monday, December 12, 2016. A conference call should be scheduled for the week of December 12, no earlier than December 13, to discuss ballot comments. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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2016 Q4 Face to Face Meeting - Kansas City
bbf2016.1082.00 (YANG Module for PON Uplink Identification: Adtran) Deferred to closing FTTdp Management session or teleconference.bbf2016.1081.00 Thursday 27 October 201613:30-16:15Grand Ballroom E | Led by: Attendees: William Lupton, Ken Kerpez, Dong Wei, Marta Seda, Tom Starr, Joey Boyd, Jan Erreygers, Ludwig Pauwels, Les Brown, Marcin Drzymala Liaisons bbf2016.1224 & bbf2016.1225 reviewed and amended. Revisions 01 agreed, posted to the secretariat and uploaded to ARO. WT-298i2 agreed to have FB ready version to review on one of the interim teleconferences for the formal agreement to start the FB process. Review of CP slides: |
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